The manipulation led to more diluted shares as the price got lower. The lack of substantial gains from products and services sold is also an issue here. Chan has a lot to make up for that’s for sure, but to say this is a scam as some have is nonsense. GSA/VA status, Patents, Credit Unions, CEA deal, and many other things that a scam company doesn’t have. Not to mention Mark Wells would never be a part of a “scam” if he thought that IGEN was. Like I said, we will see what happens.