Sam, that was Orie referring to himself as he was answering my question...I am a stuck shareholder like everyone else here and email Orie and get a response just like anyone else here could do. I own a little over 10mil. shares which is probably a lot less that most here. Just keeping in touch with him so he knows we are very interested in getting our investment back and I do believe he answers honestly. Hoping the best for him and us!