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VERITAS77

02/14/07 11:15 AM

#912 RE: VERITAS77 #911

continued..
otherswise we are like a jewish person or jw or_____?

WHO CLAIM THAT GOD IS A GOOD GOD ONLY.
THAT WE CANNOT LOOSE ANYTHING, THOUGH OUR ACTIONS REVEAL OUR HEART. (at least momentarily)

An eternal security saying is like this:
PRAISE GOD *AFTER you sin, why? because he is soooooo merciful and loving and has already forgiven me EVEN ALL MY FUTURE SINS.

And so..... we have an *attitude/ DOCRTINE that ALLOWS a person to *think only losing rewards here is the issue.

Ya right, this is the old have your pie and eat it to.

HAVE THE SEASON/LIFE TIME OF SIN CONTINUALLY *WITHOUT REPENTANCE (AFTER BEING BORN AGAIN) AND.....
STILL GO TO HEAVEN, WHILE being a stumbling example for those that may in up in hell?!! that is not right.
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Ragin_Cajun

02/14/07 11:26 AM

#913 RE: VERITAS77 #911

Veritas exactly, I asked if there was any practicing Jews cause I wanted to know what is their atonement for sin. According to the Mosaic Law a blood sacrifice was necessary for the forgiveness of sin. God is a righteous judge and there needs to be a penalty for sins.

For example:
Say a person kills all the children of ones family and with the parents of the murdered children present at the trial, the murderer tells the judge he is sorry and that he won't do it again. If judge says ok he sorry for what he did you can go free, what kind of judge would that be. A crime was committed and a penalty should be paid. Christ paid our debt by the way of the cross.

Christ's blood was shed for us so that we could repent and turn from sin and be forgiven. The blood is applied on our behalf when we truly repent and not just say I'm sorry...

As a Muslim or a Jew I ask you what atonement do you have for sin that you might be forgiven?

Can you just ask God or Allah for forgiveness and what kind of judge would he be if he just overlooked your sins?

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orlander_file

02/14/07 12:08 PM

#916 RE: VERITAS77 #911

JESUS WAS HUMAN.no such thing as immaculate conception.Its not possible, any more then Moses splitting the red sea. Being a jew,I don't believe in the holy trinity.
hanging Jesus and then worshiping him for the last 2000 years is a little too much.. And dont tell me he died for my sins. he died for his sins....not mine.....see the bible for what it is... see the torah or what it is.... not eating pork or shrimp was a pathetic thing for me to never have tasted. tradition is what gives a mouth piece to fanatical people who look to save people for their own mis-givings and then believe that they too shall be blessed,with each and every new devout they can find.