They were previously in production while Sayona was the explorer. Too much debt when the bottom dropped out of lithium. Lithium dropped, seemingly on purpose just as China started sucking up all of those entities that didn't have enough cash to weather the drop. Great management, very ambitious, a get shit done type of operation. I feel like I want to buy more but not until we go sub penny, if we don't go there I will just hold what I've got. $ALTAF long.