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[arizona1]

My guess is that they had families with fathers

Well, you'd be guessing wrong.

..............Kevin Shafer, a professor of sociology at Brigham Young University, is among those noting that while other countries are very like the United States in terms of marriage and divorce rates, the amount of nonmarital births and dwindling church attendance, among other facts of family life, America stands alone for the sheer volume of mass shootings.

No expert told the Deseret News that family problems and troubled relationships don’t impact children or their future behaviors. But many doubt mass shootings can be laid at their door.

................“Conservatives who talk about family structure, fatherlessness or mental health after mass shootings are simply not serious,” said Philip N. Cohen, professor of sociology at the University of Maryland. “No serious policy analyst considers these actionable causes of America’s unique problem of mass shootings. Those are problems that exist everywhere, and nowhere else has our gun violence. Proof that they are not serious is that they have no policies to propose.”

Cohen said no policy proposed by “family conservatives” has reversed the decline of marriage or the rise of single parenthood.

“This is not and never has been a practical policy approach. It’s just ideological pandering. To raise this after a horrific tragedy like Uvalde or Buffalo is just taking up space in the news until the country’s attention moves on,” he said.

.......,,,,,,The United States is roughly in the middle of rich countries for nonmarital births, Shafer said, but its gun violence rate is much higher than in any other rich country. When he posted that on Twitter, someone told him he was asking the wrong question and that he should be looking at the share who are single parents. So he did that, too.

“There’s also no relationship between the percent of single parents and gun violence rates within a country. That doesn’t appear to be a risk factor. If you look at marriage rates, that’s not protective. [color=red]If you look at divorce rates, that doesn’t increase the rate of gun violence within a country,”[/color Shafer said.

..........Others point out that some children living in homes with their father have a strained relationship with him — or none at all. If a father is a my-way-or-else authoritarian, studies say the resulting parent-child connections don’t benefit children.

...........“Single mom” doesn’t necessarily mean raising kids without another parent. And “absent dad” may not mean he isn’t engaged in his children’s lives, several experts said.

............Unstable relationships, chronic economic stress, being exposed to violence in a community, being surrounded by deteriorating infrastructure and disadvantaged neighborhoods — all those can have more impact than family structure does, several experts said.

..........Some experts say it’s too easy to try to offer simple explanations like family structure or mental health to explain a horrific attack. Often, the motives behind attacks never do become clear.

“What is clear in all of these killings is the easy access to guns, guns that allow these young men who are very likely detached from civil society, to do unthinkable harm to children, families, and communities, including fathers,” she said.
https://www.deseret.com/2022/6/5/23148521/mike-lee-school-mass-shooting-uvalde-fatherlessness-family-structure-gun-violence-dickey-amendment?utm_source=ksl&utm_medium=referrer

[arizona1]

My guess is that they had families with fathers

Hey hap, look who left three out of his four children fatherless. LOL

Rants By Herschel Walker's Son On Absent Baby Daddies Go Viral At Awkward Moment

Wild rants by Herschel Walker’s son about absentee baby daddies are going viral on Twitter just as his Republican Senate candidate dad is trying to explain how he has a few other children the public didn’t know about.

While Christian Walker, 22, has been angrily preaching to baby daddies to “control your thing” on TikTok videos, his dad has admitted he has two other sons and a daughter with other mothers.
Video:

Christian Walker railing against deadbeat dads, and Nick Cannon specifically, as “everything wrong” w/ America on TikTok five days ago

“Get home and raise your kids! And take care of the women you’re knocking up! Can you control your thing for three seconds??” pic.twitter.com/2ol553f0LS

— Grace Panetta (@grace_panetta) June 15, 2022

Walker, a Heisman Trophy winner and former NFL star who’s been endorsed by Donald Trump in his campaign against Sen. Raphael Warnock (D-Ga.), has often spoken out publicly against children being raised in fatherless households, which he has called a “major, major problem.”

“Get home and raise your kids!” says an angry Christian Walker in one of his video messages early this week, targeting “Wild N’ Out” host Nick Cannon. “And take care of the women you’re knocking up! Can you control your thing for three seconds?”

He had a similar eruption weeks ago on the same topic.

“Fathers, it would be great if you stayed home and raised your kids instead of ran off to bang a bunch of women who weren’t your baby mama. Stay home and raise your frickin’ kids!” he said. “Your kids need a father! Get back home!”
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/christian-herschel-walker-absent-baby-daddies-viral-video-rants_n_62ad36bce4b06594c1d67750

On Wednesday, Herschel Walker’s campaign confirmed a report in The Daily Beast that he has a 10-year-old son with a woman from whom he’s estranged.

He fathered the child “years ago when he wasn’t married,” campaign manager Scott Paradise said in a statement to HuffPost.

The Beast reported that the child’s mother, who has not been publicly identified, sued Walker after giving birth to secure a declaration of paternity and child support from Walker, who has limited contact with his youngest son.

After his campaign confirmed the 10-year-old son, Walker, 60, then said Thursday that he also has a 13-year-old son and an adult daughter, who was born when Walker was about 20, after it was reported in The Daily Beast.

“I have four children: Three sons and a daughter. They’re not ‘undisclosed’ — they’re my kids. I support them all and love them all,” Walker said in a statement to HuffPost.

tWalker told HuffPost that he “chose not to use them as props to win a political campaign” — though Christian Walker has appeared at events with his father.