Pocket, I was't referring to the S8 and the consultants. I was making a point that it didn't appear to me that the officers/insiders required to report to the SEC (Stanford Intl- Mak and his crew, the Corp. Sec. and whoever else) were not selling their stock. That says to me they are believers and this isn't some kind of scam. I also noted that I couldn't be sure that they weren't selling, just couldn't find anything in the SEC filings.