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daved

02/05/07 6:27 AM

#41582 RE: drbio45 #41574

Re MCU MI definition DrBio. Early in this thread I posted that I have called Hogan Mallally of MCU and verified that 100ng/ml was part of the P3 SPA and supplanted 50 used for P2. At the time I also verified that troponin measurement was not going to be part of the P3 trial. Stroke will be measured but not be part of the agreed endpoints.

It can't hurt to call again to see if I can elicit further information regarding the protocol. An ounce of prevention.....

I'm no expert re MI. I ask you and the board?

What questions should I ask to elicit the most valuable information.

My last questions will be: Were these factors measured in the P2? What were the results?

Dave

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iwfal

02/05/07 8:21 PM

#41608 RE: drbio45 #41574

Why would they release peak CK-MB greater than or equal to 100ng/ml

I fully believe it is a component of the MI portion of the endpoint. But MCU very carefully steers away from actually saying it is THE definition of MI. For an example, see the Alexion trials where they had an SPA (i.e. the FDA almost certainly put in the endpoint they wanted) and the definition of MI was not limited to CKMB>100.

Also note that Alexion had results in CKMB that were just as encouraging as MCUs and utterly bombed in the pivotal trials - my guess is that it is possible to change the way that the damage to the heart expresses itself without actually decreasing the damage. Hence the decoupling of CKMB from actual MIs.

Note again that the physician diagnosed MI rate in the last trial is the offsetting factor to this. But I'd want to see a published paper/poster expressing the fact that this was done blinded etc.

Clark