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12/10/21 7:57 PM

#393482 RE: Koog #393479

Individual rights are important to every one. To us as much as to you. Again we just see them differently. Some stances feel better to you. Some others better to those of us who engage you, or not. Pick one.

Covid mitigation matters. Mask mandates. If based on the best evidence for the public good, why not. What's the problem with targeted vaccination and mask mandates for a virus still not under control. Individual right then becomes accept it or not. We accept beaches being closed for public safety reasons.

A military draft. Muhammad Ali's anti-draft stance. His right. And establishment forces banning his fights. He had the right. Did those who persecuted him have their individual right to use their power the way they did? Individual right versus the power/right of others. His anti-Vietnam War anti-war stance proved popular in the end.

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12/10/21 8:14 PM

#393484 RE: Koog #393479

Yeah, some are really bad. Who on the Democrat side is as bad as those on the Republican
side who helped, or just ignored, Trump's effort to overturn the election he lost.

Who on the Democrat side is as bad as those on the Republican side who support Trump and his "Big Lie."

Who on the Democrat side is as bad as those who have misinformed the American public to the extent some 50m Republicans .. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/16/americans-republicans-stolen-election-violence-trump .. believe Trump won the election.

It's not a case of "whataboutisms" (am not keen on the word either) it's just that Trump, his enablers and all those who still support him are really bad people. At least bad in that supporting him is damaging to American democracy. In that, also, a danger to individual liberty.

It's obviously an individual's right to ignore a Jan.6 Commission's subpoena. Where do you stand on that one.