Replies to post #97156 on Lehman Brothers Financial SA (LEHNQ)

[SwissCheeseAccount]

Use common sense, Barclays bought the IP of Lehman in 2009. Why haven’t they spinned the back off YET????? Why are they discussing a spin off around the SAME TIME plan trust is expected to close?? Think about it.

I do not understand the NOL scenario which you guys are talking they will have assets. Some said from LBIE as I recall.

you must be talking about a discussion. Learn to seperate analysis from the actual facts. It’s called research and analysis for a reason.

WHAT ARE WE FIGHTING FOR IF LBHI HAS NO MONEY?????

Lucky for us, we have the 4Ws fighting for us. We as you folks who trash the 4Ws are not fighting for anything but just debating scenarios. And most of your facts and scenario can not happen without the guarantee. Be glad the 4Ws will carry you guys too if they win.

Didn’t answer the question. Don’t evade. I’ll ask it again: What are we fighting for if LBHI as no money? Let’s say we win. It is then announced LBHI is out of money. Now what?

The bottomline is ECAPs were in the money before they even filed the LBHI lawsuit. The ECAPs route is different than CTs in that the LBHI payout is gravy. ECAPs won. Thats good. Or should I say settled. The only thing for CT holders to follow is the treatment of their guarantee and how that effects us if our guarantee is in effect. And their settlement terms.

if that is the case I will tell you the same thing I told joe stocks. Why didn’t you buy ECAPS when they were trading at 4 cents?? I have post of proof that they were trading at 4 cents. Theirs literally a chart that says it. A stock trading at 4 cents was in the money? LOL

If there is no guarantee, why would they give the CTs anything? Its more clean to discharge. I am not following the J shares talk so I do not know how they supposedly play into this. Where would the j shares get its value? Class 10 through 12 will be all discharged. If there is a surviving company, it will go to the senior creditors. If the NOLs are not utilized with the discharge, they can use the NOL exception rule and replace equity with creditors and still keep the NOLs.

Highway the fact that you say this goes to show you don’t even know what you are going to court for. LBHI offered j shares to ECAP holders, the deal was ECAPS would join class 12 equity. ECAPS refused because they want cash instead that is why they are fighting. According to YOUR OWN LOGIC. You are saying LBHI was trying to take deutsche bank and others ECAPS promising them they would pay them with j shares. BUT when it comes time to pay, LBHI was going to discharge classes 10-12 (this includes ECAPS) and deutsche bank was going to say “hey where’s our j shares you told us you were going to give us in COURT!” And LBHI with their new company will tell them back “get discharged, later sucka!” And flee the scene. You are saying LBHI was trying to commit a collusion against billion dollar banks and hedge funds. That’s is insane.



Btw link me to this insurance thing you are talking about

[SwissCheeseAccount]

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If there is no guarantee, why would they give the CTs anything? Its more clean to discharge. I am not following the J shares talk so I do not know how they supposedly play into this. Where would the j shares get its value? Class 10 through 12 will be all discharged. If there is a surviving company, it will go to the senior creditors. If the NOLs are not utilized with the discharge, they can use the NOL exception rule and replace equity with creditors and still keep the NOLs.

Highway, surviving company with WHAT if LBHI WILL HAVE $0??????? you cant be talking about the $60 billion j share vault because you JUST said they are class 12 an no one wants them. surviving company with what?????????????????????????


WHY WOULD LEHMAN ONLY DISCHARGE CLASSES 10-EQUITY WHEN THEY CAN JUST DISCHRGE ALL OF THEM???????????


do you have any DD, LINKS. articles, dockets that say classes 10-12 will be discharged and all senior classes will not be discharged?? do you have anything that supports anything you are saying??? not what Fantastic four told you. something that you can bring to the board?????