I think most long term shareholders view the company like a startup since they restructured and overhauled their business plan in 2020. This was complicated by the Covid pandemic. I'm giving them a pass thru the rest of this year. I'm hoping we'll see some revenue by the 2FQ22 10-Q in December, but expect we'll start seeing a significant ramp up beginning in 3FQ22 (thru 1/31/22). However, if they win a royalty challenge in court, the pps could skyrocket very quickly.