Art seems like a decent guy, but he needs to watch the pumping in areas he hasnt shown any experience. He has zero background in putting systems into hospitals, zero experience in oil/gas or cannabis. So his views on growing those businesses will have to be evaluated on that inexperience. But a retired Art is heads above a full time Marion, if he can at least get fins out on time. If so, then he is a winner to me. Outside that, this podcast showed this is dead money at least until next summer, maybe 2023 if they can get the hospital business going outside of NYC.