I look at things more pragmatically there are millions of shares sold over this price point. That means to me... those shares sitting at a Loss have a high probability of being sold off for a tax loss in december. We could not sustain a few million being sold without news. So to me it's going to go one way or the other. We get communication before tax loss season we will do well. If we go into tax loss season with nothing tiger is 100 percent correct.