I can't tell you how much I appreciate your reply, I do really enjoy & appreciate folks pitching in on a subject, really helps me to learn, thanks much. My wife & I were chatting about me studying Romans and I told her that I wished that I was not so thick, I think I have read the same pages in the "Text, Exegesis, and Exposition" in the Interpreter's Bible 4 times and just starting to get a handle on stuff, now saying that I have to wonder if when folks read Scripture if maybe they should read the same passages over a couple of times to really get the flavor......Once again thanks