Replies to post #241516 on Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

[Trader77]

>>but in the eyes of Al Qaeda, Israel and America have conspired against muslims for the past 30 years or longer.<<

Thats because al Qaeda is made up of liars. Lying of course is justified in jihad if it inspires muslims to blow themselves up killing jews and other infidels. Why do you believe that statement? Convinced by the Left perhaps?

To prove my point about them being liars, listen to this article about the book "Messages to the World" which contains Bin Laden's speeches:

But his (Bin Ladin) Achilles heel is his highly selective quotations from the Quran. 'When the forbidden months are over, wherever you find the polytheists, kill them, seize them, besiege them, ambush them,’ he says, quoting 9:5, conveniently omitting the second half of the verse: But if they turn (to God), maintain the prayer and pay the prescribed alms, let them go on their way, for God is most forgiving and merciful.’

He quotes 8:39: ‘Fight them until there is no more persecution and until worship is devoted to God,’ but fails to add the ending: ‘If they desist, then God sees all that they do.’

When he encourages Muslims to support the jihadis in Saudi Arabia by quoting 8:72 - ‘If they seek help against persecution, it is your duty to assist them’ - he again leaves out both the first part of the verse, which establishes the antecedent (the emigrants), and is also the conditional to the quoted clause, which continues, ‘except without people with whom you have a treaty: God sees all that you do’.

Thus the Quran’s message is twisted, time and again, into a distorted one that can allow Osama to justify the killing of innocents in the name of Islam. ‘Every Muslim,’ he says, ‘hates Americans, hates Jews, and hates Christians. This is a part of our belief and our religion.’ Completely absent from this man’s vision of the world is any sense of the hospitality, kindness and generosity most non-Muslim visitors to Muslim lands typically take away with them as their overwhelming impression - including from the land of Osama’s birth, Saudi Arabia.


Do you see what they're doing here? Do you see what I mean by manufactured discontent? So what are the Liberals and the media doing when they spread the idea that "America is the bad guy" which you seem to believe. They are siding with these lying barbarians. At a time when we need unity to confront the most important issue of our time, the Libs are only adding fuel to the fire. That should be pretty obvious to all, but it's not.