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[vinmantoo]

Looking at the Delta breakout clusters and reports from other countries like Israel it seems to me that getting the mRNA Vaccine does not offer that much protection.

That is false. The Israeli data is from a very small sample size. Other data indicates that the mRNA vaccines remain highly effective.

Now for those in a high risk pool, like the elderly and the obese (particularly with Type 2 Diabetes) it probably makes logical sense to get vaccinated. For otherwise healthy adults, and especially children and young adults, avoiding the vaccine make sense. It offers little protection from variants. A

Once again, you are wrong about the vaccines not being highly protective against the variants including delta. The idea that healthy adults don't need to be vaccinated is sadly far too common. The hospitals ICUs and cemeteries are filled with healthy adults who mistakenly thought that, especially with the delta variant.

And vaccinated people can still be Covid carriers.

Yes, they can spread it to unvaccinated people who are at far higher risk of serious illness and death than vaccinated people. That is why mask mandates are being reimposed, for public safety.

There are too many credible reports of myocarditis, especially in young men.

It is extremely rare and easily resolved with some rest.

The government, which can't be trusted in regard to anything, especially our health, is pushing the vaccines too hard.

Ah, the delusional paranoia angle. I bet you believed all the nonsense spewed by the former occupant of the White House.

A backlash is developing all over the globe.

Yes, there is a small percentage of stupid selfish people in every country.

You have politicians all over the world imposing lockdowns and mask requirements and trying to pass laws mandated vaccine compliance, while consistently failing to follow the same rules they ant to impose on everyone else. Do you think the 700 or so people at Obama's birthday bash are going to be social distancing and wearing masks except for select photo ops? I'd bet against it. Chicago Mayor Lori Lightweight thinks imposing vaccine requirements and extending mask mandates is fine for the sheeple, but she can attend parties and Lalapalooza with thousands of other people and do it unmasked.

Deflectors on maximum. It is regrettable that a very small number of people proposing rules didn't follow them once. So what? That doesn't mean the rules are wrong. As far as the proposed Obama birthday bash, they are holding it outside, mandating vaccinations or negative Covid tests. In other words, following proper protocols to minimize risk. You know who is doing the opposite, setting up risky situations and super spreader events? tRUMP and Republicans but you ignore that and only cite rare examples of Democrats not following the rules they are pushing which ENHANCE public safety. The imbecile Congressional Republicans refuse to wear mask and Lindsey Graham has just tested positive. The imbecile Republican Governors of Florida and Texas have their states spiking in Covid and these death cultists are blocking the imposition of mask or vaccine mandates everywhere in their states. The carnage will get worse when schools open as unmasked kids spread the delta even more widely. Hell of a job there Brownie.

Bottom line...if the government is pushing it....I'm doing the opposite,

What an absurd philosophy! So you must drive drunk, never wear seatbelts, ignore stop lights.

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Bigworld, Looks like the term 'Arkancide' will have to be updated and broadened -


>>> Four officers have died by suicide after U.S. Capitol attack

Police confirmed the latest deaths of Kyle DeFreytag, Gunther Hashida


By Tom Howell Jr.

The Washington Times

August 3, 2021


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/aug/3/four-officers-have-died-suicide-after-us-capitol-a/


Four officers who defended the U.S. Capitol during and after the Jan. 6 attack have died by suicide.

D.C. Metropolitan Police on Monday confirmed the death of 26-year-old Officer Kyle DeFreytag on July 10, according to WUSA9.

The officer enforced curfews after attackers inspired by then-President Trump’s call to freeze the electoral vote count beat officers and smashed their way into the halls of Congress.

Police confirmed Officer DeFreytag’s death shortly after confirming that D.C. Officer Gunther Hashida died at his home on Thursday.

“Officer Hashida was a hero, who risked his life to save our Capitol, the congressional community and our very democracy,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Monday. “All Americans are indebted to him for his great valor and patriotism on January 6th and throughout his selfless service.”

Mrs. Pelosi offered condolences to the DeFreytag family on Tuesday, saying “the loss of fallen officers who defended our democracy that day is devastating, and each life lost is a tragedy that America mourns, deeply.”

The White House also honored the officers.

“Their deaths are a sad reminder of that shameful day in our country’s history and of the physical and mental scars left [on] the officers who risked their lives to protect our Capitol and our democracy,” White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said.

D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser said their deaths are a “stark reminder of the integral role that mental health plays in our police department.”

“I am grieving their deaths and sending prayers to their families, but most of all, committing to action and remaining steadfast as we continue to make the well-being of all of our officers a top priority,” the mayor said.

Capitol Police in January confirmed that Officer Howard “Howie” Liebengood, 51, died by suicide.

D.C. Officer Jeffrey Smith took his life weeks later.

A House select committee is investigating the Jan. 6 attack.

D.C. Officer Michael Fanone, who was beaten that day, slammed certain GOP members at the first session on July 27.

“The indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful,” he said, raising his voice.

Rep. Adam Kinzinger, an Illinois Republican serving on the panel over the objections of GOP leadership, said investigators will take a close look at Mr. Trump’s actions that day and conversations he had with GOP allies.

Another Capitol Police officer, Brian Sicknick, died from a series of strokes the day after the attack.

He engaged with protesters and was pepper-sprayed. The D.C. Medical Examiner concluded the officer’s death was due to natural causes, and there was no evidence his death was a homicide, nor any indication that he suffered internal or external injuries.

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