Chartmaster, no secrecy here. Go back and check the NSAV Twitter feed. There was talk of converting a small percent, which is all NSAV had left. JT said, yeah it is dilution, but it is a very small percentage. Something like 5% which should not hurt shareholdsrs at all. I believe it was back in May or around then. Thee was a lawsuit they settled with Jake Noch. He got 52 million. Possible they were for that purpose.