Now I remember. Too bad Kessler isn’t involved anymore, though I’m sure he’s still connected. He was head of Operation Warp Speed. Too bad he wasn't in charge of therapeutics.
"Yes they are esteemed colleagues" What makes you think so?
This was an interesting coincidence: "While at Harvard, Kessler obtained a J.D. degree in 1977 from the University of Chicago Law School." DeGrado "received a B.S. (chemistry) from Kalamazoo College and a Ph.D. (Chemistry) from the University of Chicago in 1977". Both from Wikipedia.