Birch, when I was posting so much with the facts and links the first part of this year it didn't make any difference when it ran to .03 plus. They will get the volume they need as always just like when Triton was converting. They just need to post PR's that are at least plausible. The NASDAQ uplist BS didn't get any traction because most traders are smarter than that. Traders will always speculate here because of the nature of the stock which has always been promotion of the shares by the company. Just always be in a position to sell when they need to promote and convert.