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doughboy2

05/13/21 1:22 PM

#1643 RE: Garden Rose #1636

LMAO - you are getting schooled by someone that OBVIOUSLY knows much more about this than you.

DragonBear

05/13/21 2:02 PM

#1652 RE: Garden Rose #1636

Sorry you are wrong-I'm never wrong

when confronting anti-VAX conspiracies.


the MRNA enters the cell and there is every reason to expect there may be to much MRNA material which would overflow causing extracellular material floating around in the body which would then be attacked by the innate immune system.



No, that's not the way it works. The mRNA doesn't flock into a few cells, causing them to burst, spilling the mRNA back out into the bloodstream. If it did, there would be no immune response to the vaccine. Everything as in viral like proteins, would be few in number, and elicit a good acquired immune reaction. As stated previously the mRNA would be degraded by extracellular RNases. Most likely within an hr. Any extracellular material floating around would be engulfed by a macrophage. So much for the "attack". Garbage collection happens everyday, all the time in our bodies.

However, we do know the mRNA vaccines elicit an excellent response. With the mRNA churning out spike proteins, until eventually being degraded within a cell after 10-12 days max. It doesn't explode out of the cell as some anti-VAX site believes.

Repeat after me: mRNA is degraded by RNases if outside a cell, and no longer has its nano-lipid protective encapsulation. There is no response by the innate immune system to RNA nucleic acids. Other than through garbage collection of the degraded RNA - be it from a vaccine or host RNA.

Meanwhile back in Ivermectin wonder world...

Ivermectin is extraordinary-if one needs a deworming

However, not effective against tape, and hook worms.

It renders spike proteins INERT



There's no evidence it does so in vivo.

It’s even better than hydroxychloroquine as it treats all stages of “COVID”.



It has shown no evidence of efficacy in any stage of "Covid". Whether it's better or not than HCQ, which is also worthless for treating Covid is irrelevant. Both are worthless.

It kills coronavirus in 48 hours



There's a lot of different drugs that can kill Covid in a lab tissue culture flask. And they have yet to show any efficacy in humans.

Dr. Pierre Kory: We have immense data. If you take Ivermectin, you will not get sick. A winner of the Nobel Prize, it has proven to be a Wonder Drug.



Fur shur you will be free of roundworms.

And from the CDC past Ivermectin studies and their

faults listed


janice shell

05/13/21 9:05 PM

#1692 RE: Garden Rose #1636

Don't forget, lots of cells out there, one size may not fit all protein spikes.

WTF????

Sticking w/my own opinion since it makes a lot of sense.

Even though it isn't informed by ANY education or expertise in this field???