So Jef busts his butt for years to build this business to where it's at now and you think shareholders owe him something? That's a pretty warped way of looking at things!!!? We're riding his coat tails pretty much and if we play our cards right IMO we should make 1000% to 5000% off our investments!! Or at least I will! Good luck though and sorry if you don't understand what's going on here?, it's pretty obvious!