Replies to post #353636 on Innovation Pharmaceuticals Inc (IPIX)

[slickWatts]

Although several countries mandated wearing facemask in health care settings and public areas, scientific evidences are lacking supporting their efficacy for reducing morbidity or mortality associated with infectious or viral diseases [2], [14], [19]. Therefore, it has been hypothesized: 1) the practice of wearing facemasks has compromised safety and efficacy profile, 2) Both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to reduce human-to-human transmission and infectivity of SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, 3) Wearing facemasks has adverse physiological and psychological effects, 4) Long-term consequences of wearing facemasks on health are detrimental.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

[slickWatts]

Due to the difference in sizes between SARS-CoV-2 diameter and facemasks thread diameter (the virus is 1000 times smaller), SARS-CoV-2 can easily pass through any facemask [25]. In addition, the efficiency filtration rate of facemasks is poor, ranging from 0.7% in non-surgical, cotton-gauze woven mask to 26% in cotton sweeter material [2]. With respect to surgical and N95 medical facemasks, the efficiency filtration rate falls to 15% and 58%, respectively when even small gap between the mask and the face exists.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

[Barron4664]

Thanks for your discussion. I would like to point out 2 arguments that counter your list of false assumptions. The CDCs study of jurisdictions with masks mandates vs those without on the effect of infection rates ultimately was statistically insignificant with a 95% confidence level and a p value of 0.5 which ultimately lead the study authors to use words such as masks “may” or “could” help. As to your 3rd false assumption, it is important to note that in order to get a death rate in the united states of over 500,000 people the CDC had to break two laws. The first is the administrative procedures act, the second law is the paperwork reduction act. This is not conjecture, those two laws were broken; first when the model projections from foreign universities and US universities were used to justify the state of emergency and invocation of the Prep Act and Project Bioshield Act. Secondly when the revised guidance for death certificates was revised in March or April of last year. There is no way to get around the Fact, yes fact that if we were using the official death certificate guidance from 17 years ago, (that unified the reporting of deaths across the US and followed the APA and Paperwork reduction act, you can see the deliberations in the CFR and response to public comments and interagency review) the US would be reporting death rates in-line to Australia. Perhaps a way to check this would be to see the methodology for coding death certificates in Australia. My guess is it would look like our methodology prior to last year.

[TheDane]

Masks “... along with other measures, such as aggressive quarantining of contacts” and social distancing.

Most countries have mask requirements, even the ones that “failed to contain” the spread. Everywhere I go in Maryland people are wearing masks even in the most idiotic situations. New York, New Jersey, Michigan, etc. all have masks requirements for public places and places like these had the worst outcomes for Covid 19. Maybe a mask can help prevent the spread in certain situations but as public policy it doesn’t seem to do much good. Most of the spread occurs in homes and in work situations where people are close together for extended periods. Walking by someone on Fifth Ave. is not a spreader event. I think the virus is going to go where it wants to go, which it appears to have done, until it dies out, which it seems to be doing.

Average age of death in the u.s. is 76+/-

Average age of Covid death is about the same.

Perhaps there’s another reason than masking that Vietnam did so well. Perhaps it’s the general health of the population? The u.s. has a sedentary and overweight population. Obesity is a key co-morbidity for Covid 19.

[sunspotter]

“Masks work”

The science proves that’s true.

I wonder why anyone would pretend otherwise, and what else they misrepresent?