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[To infinity and beyond!]

B OM will not be resuscitated unless the company has a cash windfall. As things stand, it is a goner.

maybe B UC focus, if the company can survive a B for C flop.

or maybe, B beats C convincingly and the whole world changes-

[Justfactsmam]

Herd Immunity...a fiction!

ONLY a Therapeutic (like Brilacidin) which KILLS the virus (likely on contact) will eradicate most of Coronavirus AND its Varients, as the mutations develope

Real scientist warn:

As long as the virus continues to mutate somewhere in the world, ... this coronavirus will be with us indefinitely, much like the flu is. And the FLUE...KILLS 40,000 A YEAR AND FAR LESS DEADLY!



Read on...

"Roadblock no. 1 to herd immunity: COVID-19 variants

First of all, let's talk about the variants.

"Viruses mutate constantly, so most mutations do nothing," said Wachter. "What we're seeing now with the U.K., the Brazilian and the South African variant is interesting, because it shows that variants can change in all sorts of ways. They can make (viruses) more infectious, they can make them more serious -- meaning equally infectious, but if you happen to get it you're likely to get sicker -- and/or they can make them resistant to immunity."

Any or all of those things are concerning because they make herd immunity harder to attain. Take the U.K. variant, which is said to be about 50% more infectious than last year's predominant strain. That means you'd need to vaccinate more people to really curb its spread. Variants that are resistant to immunity would provide an even bigger challenge and force a real re-tinkering of the vaccine.

As long as the virus keeps circulating, it will continue to have a chance to mutate. That's one of the major reasons there's been such a big emphasis on getting the vaccine into people's arms as quickly as possible. Not only does it keep people from getting sick, it keeps the virus from creating more -- potentially more contagious or serious -- mutations.

Roadblock no. 2: California isn't an island

Gov. Gavin Newsom recently announced an ambitious goal of vaccinating 4 million Californians per week. That hasn't happened yet -- not even close -- but that would hypothetically speed us toward herd immunity in no time.

But California isn't an island. Nor is the United States, for that matter. And this is where things get really complicated.

If you think the vaccine rollout is going slowly in the United States, it's going worse in almost every other country. If people around the world are still getting sick, they will continue to circulate the virus on airplanes or cruise ships, much like they did in the beginning of this pandemic.

Plus, as long as the virus is in circulation, there are more opportunities for it to mutate.

"I don't actually think we're going to eradicate this virus anytime soon," said Gandhi. Total eradication has happened before with smallpox, she points out, but the virus was substantially different from this one.

"The answer is several years, to many years, to never," said Wachter. "We never reached herd immunity with the flu. What we have (with the flu) is a virus that mutates every year and we've got to rejigger our vaccines every year. Luckily, it's not that infectious and not that deadly. But 30,000 or 40,000 people a year die of the flu in the United States."

As long as the virus continues to mutate somewhere in the world, Wachter thinks this coronavirus will be with us indefinitely, much like the flu is.

"It's seasonal, it comes in the winter, there's a new version with variants, and so we've got to rejigger vaccines every year or two," he said. "That probably is more likely than the scenario of two years from now, we never ever see this thing again."

That's why the doctors aren't exactly framing herd immunity as some grand finish line."