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uksausage

01/30/21 7:34 PM

#19385 RE: twaflyer1 #19384

We are both waiting for you to tell us the answer.

There is no data from HYSR.

One fact please, how much hydrogen does gen1 or gen2 produce from an 8 hour sunny day?

Stop avoiding the fact that the company hasn’t published this, or other detail related to the performance of their products.
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rsh

01/31/21 11:06 AM

#19388 RE: twaflyer1 #19384

Not Opinion (Weather Data):

https://www.weather.gov/iwx/fallfrostinfo

Overwhelmingly most of the US freezes each year - clearly. How does any Gen-X device possibly work with catalysts immersed in water which changes the opacity (water to ice) to sunlight to ZERO! That means the catalyst cannot see the sunlight and function while frozen. It cannot work while frozen! So not only does the technology produce very little hydrogen in sunlight (months without freezing) it can NOT produce hydrogen in the months where, according to the "weather service map", it freezes outdoors. (What can possibly prevent the device from destruction in the expansion of the contained water freezing into ice?) Unpublished and unverified indoor lab results of the hyped up HYSR tech have no relationship with actual outdoor yearly conditions. One must notice that HYSR (Tim Young) never brings this up or has research results for this area of thermodynamic concern!
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rsh

01/31/21 1:39 PM

#19390 RE: twaflyer1 #19384

Opinion????? "Stats mean nothing to you"?? Really??


SO HERE:
Not opinion but data measured from 1998-2016 by the NREL!
https://www.nrel.gov/gis/assets/images/solar-annual-ghi-2018-usa-scale-01.jpg

Amorphous solar panels, the least efficient, are at best 10% efficient! Call a legitimate solar panel dealer and have them explain solar panels to you.

The best catalyst coating efficiency is ~10% (and decays) and is published data from others using the platinum+ "other" catalysts used. They have actually published the numbers where HYSR has NEVER done so.

So at best, NO OPINION, you get (ref the map ) US average 4.5kwh/m2/day X .1 X .1 which gives you 0.045 kwh/m2/day to break water's hydrogen bonds (average US insolation). HINT, CLUE, that is a really small amount of energy.

Where is the OPINION in that?
Your quote:

"Ill debate you anytime mister, BRING ALONG ALL THE NUMBERS AND FACTS YOU HAVE AVAILABLE, I'll be ready!"


There are the numbers, I brought it so fulfill your claim!