Many companies lose tons of money during start up and thrive. Tesla Elon almost went bankrupt multiple times, Chrysler, Ford, GM same..... they were not doomed, they were ahead of their time and had to wait for the world to catch up. Microsoft... remember that bubble? Ya, nortel was the catalyst for the correction in the tech industry and that was caused by creepy managers. Their technology is still used today. One of the reasons I am out of Canopy at the moment, I wanna see more of Sands before I commit. I think him selling the wineries to the teacher pension fund was a good move lol!