I agree,,,I know how the penny market, works,,,along with hub, along with some of the people posting here,,,I figured it out:) some post like its the job, hint,,,however,,,even knowing what I know, still make me feel not in control, as the controlling factors are not in my control, and they are just as varblibe as if you traded as if you didn't know how it works, Lol, this could be a flip a .0001, or 2, or 20, 33, only thing I am sure about, is if I were 100 percent sure what will happen here, I will end up be 100 percent wrong, Lol , as you know, me and you have the same luck:) but we seem to be some of the more happy posters, so that is worth more then something:)