yes. i don't know why that it is a big mystery or shock. when we had a resident pumper on this thread, he gave the phone number and said to push the option for ceo. why now question me and not all along? Is it because i can't post high hopes for an update and now that the time frame has passed I can only bring up doubt? i was very optimistic that we would hear by mid september re the grant submitted back in June. I am sorry that i hit some people's nerves on this board. HOwever the grant was submitted back in June. It's now October during a pandemic when things meant to address the pandemic are sped along. and the ceo gave me the 'mid september' time frame. Oh well