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Crozz

08/18/20 11:41 AM

#170938 RE: kingpindg #170933

You bring up a good point. Maybe Anshu is getting taken advantage of in these deals. We always assumed he was this shrewd business man who knows all the angles. I think it’s the exact opposite and he doesn’t understand the publicly traded side of the business and how the financing on the publicly traded side is very different than a privately funded company. This would actually make a lot of sense and answer a lot of questions that I have. It would also explain what we have witnessed since last Sept, including the Audit debacle and the notes converting. He said it himself, that he “doesn’t really trade stocks” which could be why he is so quiet. Maybe he truly doesn’t understand how to stop what’s happening and the more he says the more he exposes himself.

Im just spitballing here. I keep wanting to get back in, but I can’t bring myself to do it, not even at these prices, because no one has explained what is truly going on. It’s either intentional or unintentional on Anshu’s part and I’m really not sure which I would prefer.

In my heart I have always thought he was a good guy. I still think I believe that, but I think he tried to grow these 2 public companies with the same exact model as he did the private company, and you can’t do it that way without a heavy knowledge of convertible debt and institutional financing. I think he got taken advantage of, and instead of circling back and cleaning those up, he keeps borrowing more, to start new entities and fund pipe dreams. At this point I don’t see a strategy back to the valuation or the pps that we once enjoyed. The only way to do that is to clear the debt, and it seems that’s not currently a priority, imo.

I still wish you all the best. I want so badly to load the boat here at this pps, but each time I have tried that in the past, it went lower. I have no idea where the bottom is, this is crazy. I never, ever, in my wildest dreams thought we’d see a pps lower than where many of us first started in this company. This is crazy and it really is super cheap, if Anshu ever starts tackling the notes. I want to be in so bad, but I just can’t. I will stay close and share anything I hear or any thoughts I have going forward. GLTA

DeltaWarrior

08/18/20 12:08 PM

#170943 RE: kingpindg #170933

I think VRUS investors know how solid of a company it is fundamentally so I don’t need to get into that at all.

What has me back are two things.

1.) Revs

2.) Main reason is the New investor who is on VRUS, INQD, and GAXY. The guy comes on board all 3 tickers and all 3 tickers immediately have S-1. The other two stocks took “effect” before VRUS, and they are already moving nicely. I believe this investor is going to get VRUS back to levels it deserves to be trading. All the hard work and contracts management has landed here cannot be for nothing. Every OtC dog has their day and VRUS time is again upon us.

GermanCol

08/18/20 4:46 PM

#171007 RE: kingpindg #170933

kingpindg, please let me give you my point of view. I agree with Thoth, from my point of view White Lion's deal is much better than Garnock's. I don't see White Lion controlling the price because the company decides when to sell (and has the right to do it vs. White Lion, that has the obligation to buy if the company wants to sell), not White Lion and also since White Lion can only have less than 5% of the OS at any time, they can not dump in the way Garnock did. Also, with the small discount vs.share price of 5% it's not worth for them to sell fast. The benefit for them comes mainly by letting the price go up and selling responsibly if they decide to do it. Finally, what I see in Garnock's case is one person deciding and being more driven by emotions, vs. a company with more people involved in decisions.