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HFM2

07/22/20 11:03 AM

#97153 RE: C-20 #97148

Very good, relevant questions. I have the same.

SilverKnightLV

07/22/20 11:05 AM

#97154 RE: C-20 #97148

I'll help to answer. Not all accounts can have their stocks borrowed. Cash/margin accounts can. Retirement (401k/IRA) can't. So those accounts don't need a high limit sell order.

But if folks want that lower stop, it's for a different reason. And they probably don't understand how OTC stocks can move as fast as they do. I would say the same with limit sells. One pre-market announcement and someone not paying attention could have their (what they think is a high) limit sell executed.

Black-Ops

07/22/20 11:28 AM

#97162 RE: C-20 #97148

yes, but that's 43,000 cats. Getting all to do anything is impossible. The other way is to hold your shares in Cirt form.

That would be quite a burden on any shareholder and even then the Naked Shorts would attack. They DO NOT NEED TO BORROW SHARES. It is as if they have a printing press. Only earnings will kill the naked shorts.

If any reader does not follow what a naked short is just ask.

I was in a deal that we did this. A director shorted some stock not knowing what I had accomplished. Yes, a Director.

Now this is serious and not a joke

I wasn't sure how it would work out exactly so this is what I did.

I saw the volume, I knew that jerks exact short in the low 1$ range. So I had the only shares that could trade without my permission.. Think I am kidding? No, I am serious. I put in a sell order for the exact short amount at 7 or 8$. Cant recall exactly.

About 20 days later, my best Pal, my Broker calls laughing. He then tells me it filled. Gap opened from around 1$ to 7 or 8$

True story. I gave that director an ultimatum in the Board Meeting. My way or he is fired. He said I was bluffing. I asked the companies top supporting broker who was in the Board Meeting do I bluff.

Broker answered no. Director refused to obey orders. I fired him and another director in that meeting and the shareholders took command under a new Board. All true. The single director remaining was an old client of mine from the 1970s. An honest man.

Now that was a funny story from 20 years ago.