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sello

07/13/20 6:21 AM

#16844 RE: Jstarr7 #16843

Yes, Facebook deemed Cloud's SEC qualified offering as a "get rich quick scheme" despite allowing multiple other offerings with virtually the exact same terms to run on their platform, including several from Manhattan Street Capital, whose CEO is a member and contributor of Forbes. Why, you ask? My opinion is because Brad Parscales, the current campaign manager for Donald Trump, is a majority holder here, that's why.

Despite both Parscales and Cloud separating themselves from each other, there are still attacks being made from left-leaning outlets simply because of the relationship.

Van Noy returned the money to an investor who claimed the money was not used as intended. There were no criminal convictions.

As far as what the former executive did before any current management or businesses were here, who cares. It has nothing to do with the current company.

CLWD!!
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Divest

07/13/20 8:09 AM

#16846 RE: Jstarr7 #16843

The AP article uses the financial problems Andrew Van Noy faced in his twenties as a recent college graduate during the global financial crisis, in an naked attempt to discredit his current business, due to his connection to Pascale . Looking at his Linkedin profile he appears to have been unemployed for most of 2009 according to his LinkedIn page, having worked for a company called the Velocity of Money from 2007 to 2009.



https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-van-noy-3b352718/

It is possible that he made bad decisions while working for that company 10 years ago since he had to declare personal bankruptcy as a young man in his twenties. It is also possible that he made very little money, and was legitimately broke, (like many twenty somethings are) because he was working in real estate during the same time frame of the global financial crisis, which was centered on the collapse of the real estate market. Without knowing the exact details of the lawsuits, we can not determine if his losses were due to personal misconduct or the extraordinarily bad circumstances that occurred in 2008- 2009 in the private equity as described in the article below, when he was working in his first job out of college.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2009/02/wolff200902
Having this background in mind the claims made in the AP article seem, to be somewhat disingenuous.

What we also know is that the Wikipedia article is based off of AP stories describing Cloud Commerce's financial condition back in 2018. We do know that the convicted felon mentioned in the story is named Jonathan Lei who sold all of his shares back in 2014 according to SEC filings.

https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/own-disp?action=getowner&CIK=0001196454

It's also noteworthy that the company's financial condition has improved significantly since 2018, as demonstrated by:

The company's forward guidance:


https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/743758/000106594920000085/ex99_1.htm

The end of conversions in the most recent 8k:

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/743758/000106594920000096/cloud8kjune262020.htm

$780K bank loan that the company received in May.

https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/own-disp?action=getowner&CIK=0001196454