And yet still no mass production no matter what names are attached to KBLB. Not a peep from Polartec. Reminds me of Warwick Mills. Lots of big industry name excitement and talk in the beginning and then dead silence. M The Movement? Heard anything lately? No. Until KBLB is producing silk in mass quantities, nothing is going to change. They were close to production in 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 ... Let’s be realistic about production. We cannot expect production until we SEE actual production. I want production just as bad as you do, but with the virus and history of missed targets I just don’t see it until I SEE it. When was the last time we saw a photo of anything from Vietnam? Just sayin’. IMHO