thanks naval! chas is exactly who i've thought him to be for years. a con man with a quicksilver tongue. if venture cap or bishops or a group of long suffering investors do not wrest control of ctdt away from chas, he will simply let it die of natural causes. there is nothing to the guy except hot air and excuses. there is real money to be made because the potential is real, but he will kill it unless he's overridden. lots of people are just nutty enough to seem okay while they wreak havoc for those around them...