I don't know about that why are we here then? I'm here to pick up any extra info I don't know about you. I guess what you're trying to say is it's all BS for the most part. If we go by the PR's that's even more BS. Really there's nothing really tangible except for KB's history which is not good and the fact that the SEC stepped in. That certainly can not be ignored.In reality only the facts speak the truth no matter how anyone including myself tries to spin it which I don't.