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rawman

04/23/20 3:01 PM

#75111 RE: cvinvestor #75103

You talk about the science and impossibility of the science.


Before misrepresenting my comments, I suggest re-posting even one of my posts that included an attempt to disprove the "science" underlying DECN's product concept! Questioning the new application of the technology is not arguing with the "science"! It is one of the same basic questions every real investor should be asking. BTW, more details from CEO Keith Berman would be helpful!

I am not a scientist. I am an experienced business person, who is focused on discussing DECN's business proposition, which seems very shaky at best! Speaking of "scientists", it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand CEO Keith Berman's share price pumping tripe is endless!

Gaining any sort of EUA Authorization is reliant on the FDA buying into the "science" and I have purposely chosen to leave that decision to the FDA!

IPwatcher

04/23/20 3:41 PM

#75143 RE: cvinvestor #75103

You don't even allow a positive outcome as a possibility, do you?



I DID allow for the possibility. Then I ruled it out.

Well, with the posted links to the scientific studies, maybe you can tell us why the scientists are wrong as well.



And those Scientists aren't Wrong. They are good Scientists and that is a GREAT paper. And everything they say in it is almost certainly true. But their study has been hijacked and frankly - abused - by DECN for their own nefarious ends. What DECN suggest this paper concludes or even 'proves' is at complete odds with the conclusions the Scientists themselves have drawn

When you look at THEIR OWN conclusions and the other Science that now exists, THEY have themselves effectively ruled that this approach could ever work as a detection methodology for Corona viruses in whole blood.
(That's not to say it can't usefully detect viruses in other samples at high enough concentration. They conclude you might be well able to and I agree with them fully)

BUT
(i) They cannot get below 1*10^11 Vp/ml with this technique. Fundamental limitation. Which they explain eloquently.
AND - from elsewhere -
(ii) Corona Virus is respiratory tract tops out at about 1x10^9. (See my citations in the link)

(iii) Corona 'virions' (which is what this method detects) seldom found in blood/serum/plasma, and even on the few occasions it is , it is at much lower concentrations. (see my citations in the link)

This technique is not sensitive enough to find Sars2 COV virions in COVID19 infected patients, and blood is the wrong place to even look for them

You can't detect what isn't there

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