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Scott999

04/06/20 3:08 PM

#31163 RE: zzaatt #31152

Nothing to lose right. That drug can cause death and other serious issues. Once it starts going to the masses, those side effects will come into play a lot more. One thing giving it to people with no option left, but to the masses? But ya, nothing to lose. All with limited efficacy results yet. And did you see them trying to say it’s peaking? Not even close sadly. One by one each state will go through this. Especially the ones that remain open.
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skitahoe

04/06/20 4:05 PM

#31172 RE: zzaatt #31152

I support the idea of trying something, rather than nothing, but I believe that Fauci and others are not that impressed with results with that drug. I believe PLX-PAD which is derived from placental stem cells and is being tried in Israel and Germany would be a much better choice. In it's patents pnemonia is clearly something it's intended for, though clinical trials to date, which are up to Phase 3, are for other things. The Chinese have indicated some success with placental stem cells.

PLSI has the patents for the 3-D bioreactor that will create 20,000 doses of this, or other, placental based drugs from a single placenta. I believe they have a substantial quantity of the drug stored cryogenically and they've made it available for compassionate use.

I believe there are other similar drugs also being tried, but clearly PSTI can produce more of it with their process. Others much more medically knowledgeable than me believe that two doses would be needed per patient, so potentially a single placenta could treat 10,000 patients with pneumonia whether it's caused by coronavirus, or other causes.

Clearly, the FDA hasn't studied this either, I'm waiting to hear what's happened in Israel and/or Germany, but once again it will be a small trial. I'm of the belief that the results may be far better than the marginal results seen with hydroxychloroquine. I believe that Trump is pushing the first thing he learned might have benefits rather than researching all the possibilities. I also understand the Chinese are saying they'll have a vaccine by Summer, if that's the case, can't we trust that as something we could use here, and reach an agreement with them to mass produce it.

We were ill prepared for the pandemic for many reasons, but clearly one of the biggest was our insistance on developing our own test, instead of working with the worlds nations to use, or improve on, what was being used in other parts of the world. Of course we lost the bubble some time before that when Trump eliminated the pandemic staff that was encouraging study of pandemics around the world. I'm sorry if this offends those who believe Trump is a hero in this matter, but if he is, can someone please explain to me how we lead the world in numbers of patients, and deaths.

Gary