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Geoffroi

03/13/20 1:31 PM

#134506 RE: Wangenstein #134502

Why would anyone short OTC stocks and take such a huge risk. Quite a large margin is required for you to short an OTC. Many large markets makers don’t short OTC stocks. So why would one take a big risk here when there are plenty of non otc companies to short. Those short numbers are misleading to my understanding.

MastaBeta

03/13/20 3:36 PM

#134517 RE: Wangenstein #134502


That's less than 2 tenths of a percent of the unrestricted shares. I'd say that does amount to just about no one.

beerbuoy

03/13/20 4:35 PM

#134533 RE: Wangenstein #134502

I don't think "Short Volume: 674,683" means what you think it means.

beerbuoy

03/13/20 5:14 PM

#134535 RE: Wangenstein #134502

http://www.sec.gov/rules/final/34-50103.htm

So lets get to the meat of it, I will provide a couple of examples of trades that require being marked short. I will use generic trading symbol XXXX for these examples:

Typical everyday trade, I have 20,000 shares of XXXX for sale on the Ask, you however want to purchase 10,000 of the shares at my price. So you enter your order and it is sent to your broker to execute. First thing is a broker electronically checks to see if there are current sell orders that match your request, if not it is off to the ECN. As I stated earlier each broker has an MM working for them to execute trades, the MM for your broker sees your order and knows I have 20,000 shares for trade. Here is where MMs “create” liquidity and order flow, the ECN matches perfect blocks like trade for trade, size and price are automatic initiated trades. In this case you only want 10,000 shares, so immediately the MM sells your broker 10,000 shares short and marks the trade as “short” although you are long in the trade, this gets reported to the Daily Reg SHO report and also on the consolidated tape.

Now nearly simultaneously on a separate leg of the very same trade transaction the MM is buying the cover from my 20,000 share block, and purchases 10,000 shares from me. This gets reported in the Non Tape Transactions Report and both Non tape and consolidated tape are both sent to FINRA for balancing and reconciliation.

The Daily Reg SHO only reports how the trade was initially executed and it does not reconcile based upon the fact the trade was covered as that will be taken care of in another report. Regulators only want to know exactly how the trade was initially executed and that is it.



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