Hudnell sounds like a child. His voice is shaky and he can't even form full sentences without saying "uh" several hundred times. This guy is a joke, I can't believe he is really an attorney. As soon as Twitter attorney gets up there, you know who's the boss. Voip-Pal never asked for a claims construction hearing as the judges mention multiple times. The claim LANGUAGE is abstract and that's why this isn't going anywhere. How the heck did this get past even 1 IPR challenge is beyond belief.