Actually, I believe they WERE taken, that is if sawyer is to be believed. As far as I know, he's the only one that ever said the shares were taken, actually on multiple occasions over a couple years time, from before 2012 & up to 2013 or so. He stated the internal audi revealed this. Either he would've signed off on it, or Chang, depending on who was ceo at the time, I would think. If there were no shares ever taken, it would be some more pretty serious fraud that vplm has said they were for all these years, so I'm pretty sure the shares WERE taken. As far as frozen, that remains to be seen. I would assume they were and if so, I would thing legally, vplm now will be forced to unfreeze them, since they are the ones found guilty of two counts of being very bad and locksmith not only was not found guilty of anything, but the vplm case against them was DISMISSED. Those facts considered, seems obvious that the shares belong to locksmith and they will have to be unfrozen. That's just my opinion as I'm not a lawyer but it makes common sense, unless there is still some heretofore unrevealed info to come out. Not only was Voip-Pal.Com, Inc SPECIFICALLY found guilty & has to pay the fine established for them, plus interest, but I anticipate there will be more of the jusgement to come out that will say vplm is also liable for court costs. The court costs in the other, dismissed case, were ordered to be paid by both sides as their own expense, per the agreement.