I've heard of JCP, just not sure how they can be such a mess when looking at earnings and stuff like that, but then again...where I live there is The Bay and when I go there it's like a ghost town so I understand that sometimes business have little or no profits...although once The Bay was very popular and I think JCP was the same, not sure on customer presence cause there are no JCP's where I live. Lol, Ironically though penny is in its name.