Replies to post #2168 on Moller International (fka MLER)

[j5mith]

My sentiments exactly. Inventionstocks' assumption is that not filing with the SEC is the only concern that Moller International has, and that if that is fixed, the stock price will promptly increase fifty times.

Paul Moller has millions of shares of MLER. If this could be fixed that easily, don't you think he would do it -- out of self interest alone?

Interesting that, only three weeks after the stock was delisted from the Pink Sheets, someone from Moller finally got around to admitting that there was an issue. It doesn't really say what they intend to do, and I suspect that there isn't a lot that they *can* do. I've always suspected that there was a very good reason (beyond the company being dormant) why MI stopped reporting financial results, and I don't think that the reason why they didn't want to report their results has gone away.

The newsletter also included an update from Freedom Motors that wasn't really an update. Same old sh*t, apart from another trip to India for Doctor Paluru.

[InventionStocks]

There is belief and there is science. I don't understand why most people on this board keep thinking that if Moller throws a few more million at the skycar it will work. He has said verbally (and you can find it on the web) that he spent $100 million. He has done test after test after test. And not only him but other companies.

Why does not anyone understand that there are only two attributes to every engine that exists. These are rpm (rotational speed) and torque (i.e. weight, g-force). Helicopters have no problem getting off the ground. This is because it has a large rotor area which allows it to have a low rpm. When you shrink that rotor down to the area of the skycar rotors the rotors have to rotate faster. The torque does not change. This increases the required horsepower. Everything is embodied in the equation hp=rpm x torque /5252. You can easily see that if the rpm increases and is multiplied by the same torque the required horsepower doubles, triples, and so on.

Its an engine issue.
This is the SP Engine's law of heavy vertical lift: When the speed of rotation is completely separated from the force that creates said rotation, said force is placed at a moment arm length away from the axis of the rotation, any practical weight can be vertically lifted.

The turbine engine, the wankel rotary engine and the 4 stroke engine all have their phases (air intake, compression, combustion and exhaust) all mechanically linked to one another. This limits rotational speed or if a high rotational speed is achieved the torque is limited. Its a catch 22. There is no way around it. The core designs of these engines are set and cannot be changed except for a few superficial enhancements like metal type, coatings, superchargers, more spark plugs, air-fuel swirl, etc.

Moller had a flawed agenda. He became so focused (obsessed) on making the Wankel engine work in the Skycar he lost sight of the fundamentals of physics. And instead of admitting that the Wankel does not work for this application he says that a few more million dollars and it will work. No it won't. He should have set out to design a new engine according to the problem's need.

$1 a share is an easy target with the right technology. A deal with Moller was on the table and not even a call back. A handful of flying car companies called back and listened and were told about the technology and they said that they were willing to place orders. Even a called back from a company that does 4 billion a year in turbine engine sales, although it is known that they don't want to rock the boat because after all they are making 4 billion a year.

None of the assets of Moller Int are needed, not the prototypes, not the equipment, not the engines, not any patents. Nothing. The only valuable assets that Moller Int has is that the media will readily cover him and that he is on the stock market. It is these two things combined with a new scientifically sound engine that will make the stock go up to a $1. At $1 a share Moller would have funds to completely build the engine. Its just an easy way to generate cash from cheap stocks and get final engine built without coming out of pocket the couple of million thats needed. Its just that simple.

Investors doing something is better than sitting around doing nothing. Moller is no different than any other shareholder, he just has more shares and was the first shareholder. Moller has a legal duty to shareholders and when he failed to keep MI registered as a legal entity and failed to file SEC reports and failed to keep investors in the loop he has essentially abandoned the corporation. There are laws regarding abandonment and applies to businesses as well. Trust me. When a public company is formed you are essentially giving your company to the public. He lost the 50% voting control as laid out in the last Article of Incorp filing.

People can bash me all they want but the fundamental fact is that the Wankel engine has not worked and will not work for a practical flying machine and that a new type of engine is the answer. If Moller did nothing when the company was on the Pink sheets he will definitely do nothing now that its on the gray sheets.





Shaken Not Stirred Wednesday, 08/21/19 10:49:31 PM
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Why do you believe it would go to a dollar?


Po3sHare Thursday, 08/22/19 02:16:44 AM
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I have to ask. In the very, very, very unlikely scenario of MI being taken over by shareholders, what exactly do you think the shareholders will get?

What does MI have? A couple of fibre glass mock-ups? What else? There are no engines as anything engine related belongs to FM.

And then, if control goes to the shareholders, then what? What happens then?