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07/18/19 7:42 PM

#84948 RE: SwissCheeseAccount #84947

Where is Mr Cotton he resting too long !!?

Joe Stocks

07/19/19 8:59 PM

#84949 RE: SwissCheeseAccount #84947

>>Yes according to the balance sheet they don't and also lets assume that they have zero off balance sheet assets. Technically they could propose a debt to equity swap for creditors and raise money for a new company and with the money raised they could buy back all CT's. Not sure if it can work like this but lets say out of the 48 million CT's 18 million are owned and 30 million just float in the market (hypothetically speaking) would they only have to pay 25 a share for the ones who are owned by investors and pay standard market price for the rest? There is also an option to re issue the debt. so there is 2 routes they could take. <<

Oh, my lord! Read and study more, talk (post) less.

If Lehman has zero assets (which they will after everything is liquidated) they have no equity to exchange. (BTW, it is debt FOR equity not "to". Debt to equity is a financial ratio.) With debt for equity, how is any money raised?

And what do you mean about shares that "just float in the market?"
And why would anyone re-issue debt? The BK allows them to cancel it if not enough funds are available. And also NOLs can not be marketed. In other words, they can't trade debt for NOLs. That is IRS code section 382 no-no.

Keep in mind that the CTs also do not have any assets. They have no equity. They have nothing to bring to the table. All they own is a class 10b claim that will receive zero distributions.