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Has any Trump supporter said yet "We were there first"? Guess even those here wouldn't be quite
into that. It's a good meme, and though the map may have a few too many American bases on it

Map: US bases encircle Iran

Dozens of US and allied forces' military installations dot the region, from Oman, UAE and Kuwait to Turkey and Israel.
by Ben Piven 2 May 2012
Doha, Qatar - US military bases continue to form a strategic envelope around Iran, although the American withdrawal from Iraq at the end of 2011 may have changed the regional balance somewhat towards Iran's favour. While US forces are scaling back in many parts of the globe due to budget cuts - and have begun a gradual depature from Afghanistan to be completed by 2014 - their international presence remains vast.
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/interactive/2012/04/2012417131242767298.html

the point it bakes is still valid.

One slightly different position on Trump's Iran position

Allies hunker down in Iraq, drop out over US tensions with Iran
By: Kyle Rempfer 5 days ago

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The military posturing is paired with President Donald Trump’s economic sanctions to pressure Iran to renegotiate the nuclear deal that the U.S. abandoned a year ago, according to Lawrence J. Korb, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress and former assistant secretary of defense.

“For Bolton, on the other hand, I think he wants to send the forces into the region and he hopes the Iranians will respond and then he can go to Trump and say ‘well, you got to do a one-off attack like we did in Syria,’" Korb told Military Times. He added that European allies want to continue the previous nuclear deal for fear of starting a nuclear arms race between Saudi Arabia and Iran.

“A lot of people say it looks like the prelude to our invasion of Iraq, but I think it’s much more like the Gulf of Tonkin in 1964 when you put all those troops in there," Korb said. "Then you get misperceptions. Then you get people overreacting.”
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/05/15/allies-hunker-down-in-iraq-drop-out-over-us-tensions-with-iran/