Replies to post #79998 on Voip Pal Com Inc (VPLM)

[nyt]

I don't know anything about the toys thing. I knew it began as all American casting, I believe in about '97. Any info I had been able, in the past, to find out about operations then, which I think was some old PRs, mentioned only voip, even back then. So what I want to know is when any voip operations begin and if there was any success in that realm. If you can direct me to any info, or links, etc. The word "casting" in the name, does indeed suggest toys, but I'm thinking it wasn't very long before voip services came into play. It's 22 years or so and I think it's very pertinent, esp considering the plethora of early PRs, and the large number of partners & deals that were announced back then, the optics of which, made it appear as tho they were a serious & significant voip player. I want to know if that is true or not. If it is, it should not be hard to find records of such?

[nyt]

As I've been reporting for years, it's harder & harder to find the really old PRs. I used to have them all, but as time goes on, they are "disappeared". The missing ones are the most incriminating ones imo. For example, the PRs available via Voip-Pal.Com, are now cutoff at the mid 2013 mark. There used to be PRs available going back to 2010. Some of what's missing can be found by looking at the old filings, but still hard to find. I just looked at one from 2004 I think it was. Anyway, I have never been able to find much info on the original All American Casting International, Inc. As far as I can tell, the voip services came into play as they did the name change to voip mdu.com, in 2004. So 15 years of voip for vplm. I'd like to know if there was any success whatsoever from 2004 to 2012. Certainly none since... I'm really not one to be able to decipher the filings, so do you have any thoughts or info on vplm successes (making money for company AND shareholders) from 2004-2012? As has been with the more modern version of vplm, they've had no problem bringing in cash, but not company growth for retail shareholders. I know that the pps was subpenny for awhile but most of those lucky buyers probably averaged up and wound up underwater like everybody else after them. Also, the pps was much higher when the 1st charts were listed back in 2004. 30/40 cent range in the beginning, so those buyers must be considered as well, as it went down, down, down from there until hitting the subs, AND THEN.......it managed to stay above the subs, but still pretty low. Plus, as soon as the 2 or 3 spikes by hypes occurred, it always went steadily back down to crap levels, like it is now.

I know at least one of the alleged founders, "F.A." is now (or was recently) serving time for voip services billing fraud.