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Frankp

04/24/19 11:02 AM

#76469 RE: stervc #76463

Exactly Sterling. Exciting times ahead!

nbhitter22

04/24/19 11:05 AM

#76473 RE: stervc #76463

I’m waiting to see what happens because I understand where you are coming from....

But what I don’t think you are fully understanding is that is one of the many possible ways this could go Sterling..... As we all didn’t expect such numbers and statements showing in the previously filed 10-K yesterday morning it seems we have been mislead and actually purposely confused in regards to such close interactions with Greg. I think maybe less communication and more distinct information from Greg would be best. Until that happens I believe the plan is to misguide the investors to confuse them on the possibilities that under lie to the future.

Now I never said your prior comment is not what will happen. I hope that is what will happen and to me I still feel like that route is most beneficial to everyone while it doesn’t hurt the Rotman Family regardless that is not the “most conservative” approach.

One aspect that I would try to modify in your theory is that they may take a more conservative approach to the consolidation benefiting the company and Rotmans more then one would expect.

I will be holding and taking the risk. One only knows the value of the future and we all will hopefully find out. It bothers me that they stated NRL is depreciating making it seem like the more they wait the more they will have to pay Rotmans to consolidate. Some questions lie open still on the fact I believe some products that VYST own are not able for be valued yet by experts. These things hold huge possible problems

Bionic Man

04/24/19 11:07 AM

#76474 RE: stervc #76463

Yep, and some can’t or don’t want to see this

MTLTrader

04/24/19 11:08 AM

#76476 RE: stervc #76463

Great message as usual, I forgot about this, and I m sure other shareholders did, this should be repeated more often on this board

Stock Logics

04/24/19 11:26 AM

#76496 RE: stervc #76463

Excellent post stervc, thank you. It feels great knowing there are other savvy investors who truly understand the Rotman's acquisition/consolidation.

Like I said it from the start, VYST will not be an investment for the majority of iHub without any disrespect. Just keeping it real.

I never bought VYST waiting on a 10-K that belongs to VYST for 2018. I am here for much bigger things to come with Rotmans and many other acquisitions to come. The 10-K is more of a formality that had to be done in order to continue with the acquisition and like you said stervc, many will just wait and see what is about to unfold. Also, once the Rotmans acquisition closes, the 10-K we just saw from VYST gets dissolved and is useless. From that moment forward it is all about Rotmans. Just to funny how people just don't get it.

2 HUGE KEY POINTS HERE:

1) The executives own over 600,000,000 shares of the OS and that can be verified adding all the FORM 4's that are out there for all to see.

2) EMA, First Fire, and Crown Bridge OVER CONVERTED IN EXCESS OF 100,000,000 shares.

If you add the 600,000,000 shares that executives hold, plus the over converted shares of over 100,000,000 that totals 700,000,000 shares. That leaves us with a float of about 300,000,000 to 400,000,000 shares.

Anyone who was here for VYST's 2018 10-K (the past) truly was never here for post Rotmans acquisition. As you can see, todays share price is a true gift caused by both manipulation a little panic sellers. Huge day for longs to add and take them as you see are being bought up.

I will say it one last time, VYST is not for the average OTC trader/investor. VYST is for a different caliber of investors who most importantly understand the fundamentals of business.

I am very confident that many will regret selling within the next few days and weeks. It is coming and will sock WallStreet.

See you all on NASDAQ!!!

$VYST

benjimane

04/24/19 11:27 AM

#76500 RE: stervc #76463

Nicely put stervc as always!! Big things on the horizon; 10k out,phase 1 down! Merger news NEXT IMO!!Plethora of catalysts upcoming to see us to dollars!! GOO VYST!

$VYST

nbhitter22

04/24/19 12:36 PM

#76584 RE: stervc #76463

Greg has only stated and hinted towards something they are calling a consolidation (we all are really unsure if this going to be a straight up consolidation but Sterling I am sure my comments below will make sense to you.)

Consolidation: A contractual and statutory process by which

(1) Two or more corporations jointly become a completely new corporation (the successor corporation),

(2) The original corporations cease to exist and to do business, and

(3) The successor corporation acquires all of the assets and liabilities of the original (now defunct) corporations.

Conceptually, it looks like A + B = C (here, distinct companies A and B consolidate into a new company, C)

The massive problem I see with this Sterling is this situation that we have:


If a single person (or even a small group) owns 100% of the company, he or she can effectively do anything he/she wants: sell off specific assets, divest certain divisions, raise funds via a bank loan, or accept an equity investment for 10% of the company which this current situation presents.

Product Groups: You will rarely work with private companies in DCM or Leveraged Finance unless they are PE-owned and they’re looking to refinance debt. In ECM, you will only encounter private companies in the context of firms about to go public via an IPO. It’s a mixed bag in M&A and you’ll see both public and private companies, but buyers are far more likely to be public.


Leveraged Buy-Out (LBO): The purchase of all publicly- held shares of a takeover target by its management or some other "inside" group, usually through undertaking substantial debt(hence, the "leverage") in order to take the company "private" and avoid a hostile takeover by an outsider. Unfortunately, this usually hurts the company by the huge debt load and possibly poor quality of debt (junk bonds, etc.)

By design, private equity backed privately held businesses are going to be sold. They might be sold to other investors, other companies, or to the public – but they are intended to be sold. These sales can make the senior executives at the companies wealthy and sometimes exceedingly wealthy.


If I were the Rotmans I feel a leveraged Buy-Out would be most conservative and would benefit them much more then an IPO and still this would be considered a consolidation as a buy-out would be happening rather then a merger..

BeamMeUpScotty

06/14/19 7:29 PM

#94574 RE: stervc #76463

This makes perfect sense to me. Many thanks.