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jimr1717

03/18/19 10:45 AM

#32701 RE: north007 #32698

Wrong

justthefactsmam

03/18/19 10:57 AM

#32702 RE: north007 #32698

no he would not need to buy the stock.

he only needs to be a majority holder of stock in both the old and new company and some stock in the new company would have to be exchanged with stockholders of the old company.

in bankruptcy, holders of debt are considered to be stockholders for purposes of this requirement.

transform holdco's securities consideration was for 3000 shares of class b stock in holdco. these 3000 shares were to be distributed. since eddie and various of his entities held debt in old sears, and that debt was a superpriority debt, eddie will just get back some/all of those 3000 shares and that will satisfy the requirement.

at no place in the "g" reorganization requirements does it say that common shareholders will be bought out or given consideration.

eddie was a majority shareholder in the old company, he controls 100% of the new company, he purchased substantially all of the go-forward assets of old sears, holdco provided stock consideration as part of its purchase price.

while it might seem rational for eddie to purchase all of the old sears common shares because he owns 50+ million of those shares, fact is he doesn't need to. it would only dilute is already 100% ownership in holdco.

rc1968

03/18/19 11:28 AM

#32708 RE: north007 #32698

Look at it this way.

There is at most $1.5B in value in the NOLs ($5B at 30% tax rate).

The remaining debt after all the assets are sold is ~$6B. ($11B - $5.2B)

If I am Eddie and I go, hmm, if we go bankrupt and I buy the assets for their fair market value I shed $6B in debt (and not my own debt). Good deal. Yes I give up $1.5B in NOL value but I got rid of $6B in debt so I am ahead by $4.5B.

No one is not going to spend $6B (by taking on the debt via a merger or stock purchase) to get $1.5B (in the NOLs). Any losses he had on the whole thing are his own NOLs effectively.

Having said that is also possible he got the NOLs anyway. That part I am unsure and unclear on. Its really the only significant news or development that is left to determine for sure.

detearing

03/18/19 10:44 PM

#32734 RE: north007 #32698

Agreed.

justthefactsmam

03/19/19 7:31 AM

#32736 RE: north007 #32698

"in order for the NOLS to be transferred EL would need to buy the stock. You are talking about billions left behind."

not necessarily true:

linked article below has been posted before but seems to have been ignored. while the author thought the "securities consideration" was somewhat opaque, the docket clearly spells out what the securities consideration is. the securities consideration is 3000 shares of class b stock in transform holdco which will be distributed in accordance with the distribution agreement set forth in the apa.

https://news.bloombergtax.com/daily-tax-report/insight-sears-net-operating-losses-will-survive-bankruptcy