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Kurtzy

11/09/06 12:52 PM

#171058 RE: NRA Member #171057

NRA, when PAIM issued the same share PRFD structure, i.e. 10,000 to every 1 common share, as far as I know, not one broker had an issue in delivering the shares. Does anyone have PAIM preferreds on this board and had issues with delivery?
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analyzethis

11/09/06 12:53 PM

#171059 RE: NRA Member #171057

Since you have all those preferreds you no longer need your common. dump them at .0002 and I will pick them up, no problem. :-) :-)
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cosmoworld7

11/09/06 12:53 PM

#171060 RE: NRA Member #171057

Sandy shouldnt of made such a HUGE number in the first place. I would of been good enough to do a 1 for 10 preferred shares.
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NRA Member

11/09/06 1:43 PM

#171095 RE: NRA Member #171057

He called me back & gave me some additional info.

First, he said that he did find out that the shares MAY be tradable by calling in an order, but there is no way to do it online. He also said that since BKMPP is closed to buys or TOA's, there is no way to even know without trying, and he said he had no idea when it may end up happening.

Next, he said that he also found this time that their "corporate counsel" has been looking into this issue for a while now. In his words, "the Street as a whole" has no idea what to make of this since nobody has ever seen it before

We spent some time talking in general, with me explaining that some think the high number of shares were a "poison pill," others think it was to expose the MM's illegal naked shorting that they get away with regarding so many others pinks, etc.

I also explained a little about BKMP, and why many of us are holding this to see what happens with TFN getting outside Canada. I told him that many of us are not treating this like a typical pink sheet stock because of the potential & things like that.

He also mentioned (just conversation wise) that he would expect that an R/S almost has to be on the horizon since for them to have the real "institutional buyers" looking at them they would need to get to $10/share on a preferred stock like that. With billions of shares out there, there's no way it could get to that.

In the end, I said, well, basically I am gathering that the real reason that nothing is happening right now with it becoming tradable or showing correctly is because everyone has no idea of how to handle it, so it's sitting there while the decisions are made. He said yes, which is why their corporate counsel is looking into it.

I will say that his response was the best one I have heard or seen anywhere - A 10,000 to 1 dividend took everyone by such shock that nobody knows how to handle it & nobody wants to do anything with it until the check into it. Makes sense, and I would probably do the same thing myself.

It could also be a crock, and that's just the answer that the "higher ups" gave him to give me so they don't tell the truth about shorting.

The fact that he said all the shares are there was also a pretty good sign.

I know that companies don't like to tell their customers, "Well, we don't know," even when they don't - But sometimes that is the actual answer. It very well may be in this case.

I asked him if he has a way to setup an "alert" to come out to me when they end up knowing something, and he told me they don't have that capability - But he will not the account in great detail, and include the name & phone # of the person he talked to before he called me back so they can just go back to that person when I check into it again to see if they know any more.

So that's where I stand - Finally somewhat satisfied by an answer I got from Schwab. And by that I mean I'm not happy with what the answer was, but happy that I got what is quite possibly THE answer of why things are the way they are - for now anyway.
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lburr1

11/09/06 1:54 PM

#171102 RE: NRA Member #171057


My broker is TD Ameritrade

I have my BKMP shares in IRA form and have rec'd the following email from TDA stating they have rec'd some of the pfrd shares in my account but are waiting for those which are "owed" from other brokerage firms....


Dear Mr. XXXX:

The PFD shares of Blackout Media are not DTC eligible. The decision regarding the ability to hold the preferred shares of Blackout Media through the Depository Trust Company is made between the transfer agent for Blackout Media and DTC. For information regarding this decision, you may wish to consult with the transfer agent for Blackout Media directly.

TD Ameritrade has received the preferred shares of Blackout Media Corp. that were payable as a result of the spin-off from Blackout Media Corp. At this time, we are awaiting additional shares of Blackout Media that are owed to us from other brokerage firms as a result of transfers and sales that occurred prior to the ex-dividend date. We have been diligently working with these brokers to obtain the additional shares. Once we have received all of the shares due, the position will be updated. Due to the shares not being able to be held in electronic format the shares for the Non-IRA accounts will be mailed directly to shareholders. As the shares are being held in an IRA account we will continue to hold the physical certificates so as to avoid a distribution from the IRA

Thanks,

Debra A.
Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, TD AMERITRADE
Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.