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Money4Nothing-M4N

12/21/18 11:12 AM

#147059 RE: Money4Nothing-M4N #147058

Just a second lump of coal for your Christmas stocking. (In case the one Jerome Powell gave us wasn’t enough)
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caseypo

12/21/18 11:47 AM

#147061 RE: Money4Nothing-M4N #147058

"b) COMMERCIALPRODUCTION
As there are no regulations in place to govern animal biotechnology, there is no commercial production in Vietnam.
c) EXPORT None.
d) IMPORT
None. "

Looks like if they ever do/did allow us to ship eggs in, nothing other than research will be allowed at this time.
I’d like to hear a clear explanation/translation from someone on the matter that actually knows.
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igotthemojo

12/21/18 12:43 PM

#147070 RE: Money4Nothing-M4N #147058

id like to hear an opinion of this by bananaman..all I ever see is platitudes about how wonderful the opinions of others were...then a regurgitation by him of what they said...

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es1

12/21/18 1:46 PM

#147076 RE: Money4Nothing-M4N #147058

CHAPTER 2: ANIMAL BIOTECHNOLOGY
PART D: PRODUCTION AND TRADE
a) PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT
As of October 2018, the GVN and MARD do not have any plans to develop regulations for the management of research or approval of animal biotechnology applications.
So there are no plans to develop any new regulations. Whatever regulations they have are what we need to worry about (which we have handled I believe)

b) COMMERCIALPRODUCTION
As there are no regulations in place to govern animal biotechnology, there is no commercial production in Vietnam.
This is correct. There is no production as of the time of this study which covers the last 12 months up to 12-11-18
c) EXPORT None.
Also correct as of the date
d) IMPORT
None.
Also correct as of the date
e) TRADE BARRIERS
None.
NONE AT ALL

PART E: POLICY
a) REGULATORY FRAMEWORK
MARD notified the draft Animal Production Law as G/SPS/N/VNM/95 on March 12, 2018. This current draft proposes to ban the “illegal import, production, release and use of GE animals and products of GE animals.” This draft Law, currently under Vietnam’s National Assembly (as of October 18, 2018), only allows the cloning of animals for study purposes and assigns the GVN to detail provisions on a risk assessment for GE animals. FAS continues monitor and will update on the development of this Law.

"This current draft PROPOSES"
So it is not currently banned. Maybe find the proposal read it and see if the specifics are available if it is a worry to you. Seems to me our worms will be there before the debate is over.

a) INNOVATIVE BIOTECHNOLOGY None.
Also correct as of the date
b) LABELING AND TRACEABILITY None.
Also correct as of the date
c) INTERLLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS None.
Also correct as of the date


So all explained for me. All those correct statements should be followed by "yet".
Maybe next year you will be able to see the report has changed since last week.
But if you think this was all compiled in a single day you are fooling yourself. Some of these conclusions were come to months ago and are the currently incorrect.

We KNOW VN is doing this because the VN government and media are acknowledging it.

The USDA is just not up to speed on the inner working of the central government in VN on a daily basis. You can bet nothing from Q4 is included in this report.
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TRUISM

12/21/18 2:49 PM

#147079 RE: Money4Nothing-M4N #147058

THIS REPORT CONTAINS ASSESSMENTS OF COMMODITY AND TRADE ISSUES MADE BY USDA STAFF AND NOT NECESSARILY STATEMENTS OF OFFICIAL U.S. GOVERNMENT POLICY







Blessings to All

TRUTH
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WebSlinger

12/21/18 3:31 PM

#147090 RE: Money4Nothing-M4N #147058

FANTASTIC post!

Thanks. That just confirms what I have been saying (about Vietnam needing to change their laws to allow mass production of GMO silkworms (or any other GMO animal)).

Changing the laws will take months (if not years) to complete, and it might never be done.
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sickzone

12/21/18 4:53 PM

#147100 RE: Money4Nothing-M4N #147058

oh no,it's the dreaded yearly m4n usda report.
was wondering when you would post it.

as for the report
interesting they didn't acknowledge these events

3585 / QD-BNN-TT
05/09/2017
On the official recognition of new agricultural plant varieties: 02 new maize varieties

346 / QD-BNN-TT
30/01/2018
officially recognized 02 new maize varieties

a couple weeks after their findings

4109 / QD-BNN-TT
22/10/18
Formal recognition of new agricultural plant varieties: 02 new maize varieties

4170 / QD-BNN-KHCN
25/10/2018
Grant of a certificate of genetically modified plants eligible for use as food or animal feed

4171 / QD-BNN-KHCN
25/10/2018
Grant of a certificate of genetically modified plants eligible for use as food or animal feed

there was a biosafety seminar on nov 16th
here is an article

Seminar to review and assess the biosafety management and propose integrated plans to effectively manage this field in Vietnam.
November 16, 2018 in HCMC. In Ho Chi Minh City, the Nature Conservation and Biodiversity Department organized a workshop on "Reviewing and evaluating biosafety management and proposing integrated plans to effectively manage this sector. Vietnam".

On 21 June 2010, the Government issued Decree No. 69/2010 / ND-CP on biological safety for genetically modified organisms, genetic specimens and products of genetically modified organisms. Over the past eight years of implementation, the Decree has been promoting effective management of biological safety of genetically modified organisms, genetic specimens and products of genetically modified organisms in Vietnam. Male. With the specific regulations assigned in Decree 69/2010 / ND-CP, relevant ministries such as Ministry of Natural Resources and Environment, Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development, Ministry of Science and Technology The Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Finance have issued documents guiding the implementation of the Decree in the areas under its management. To date, it is possible to confirm that legal documents on biosafety management in Vietnam have been formulated and promulgated relatively.

The tremendous growth of biotechnology and its applications have been meeting the growing needs of people in all walks of life. The management of genetically modified organisms created by the use of biotechnology should also be recognized to ensure sustainable development, contribute to society, and not to increase the risks. they can bring. The international community has been exchanging a lot of cross-border management measures and strengthening post-licensing management in the countries. In order to define the management content that needs to be adjusted, updated, the review and assessment of the implementation of the current regulations and identification of difficulties and obstacles is very necessary.

Vietnam has also been recognized as one of the countries that has established a full system of licensing bodies and has implemented fully national biosafety management activities through( Animal husbandry: the licensing of the trial, release for the environment, use as food, animal feed, carry out capacity building and awareness raising activities at central and local levels. on the issue of biosafety management for genetically modified organisms ...). By 2015, Vietnam marks the 29th country in the world to allow the cultivation of genetically modified crops. This license marks an important step for Vietnam in the process of applying biotechnology in agriculture.

Under the chairmanship of Mr. Nguyen Thanh Vinh, Deputy Director of Department of Nature Conservation and Biodiversity. In the framework of the workshop, delegates heard the presentations of the reporters:

Prof. Dr. Phong Van Toan, Vietnam Academy of Agricultural Sciences, Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development presented "GM crops in the world and Vietnam"
TS. Le Thi Thu Hien, Genetics Research Institute, Vietnam Academy of Science and Technology presented "Artificial / synthetic biology: updated international studies and discussions"
MSc. Dr. Nguyen Dang Thu Cuc, Department of Conservation of Species, Management of Genetic Resources and Biosafety, Department of Nature Conservation and Biodiversity, Vietnam Environment Administration, Ministry of Natural Resources and Environment presented " biosafety management and proposed adjustments and supplements to these regulations in Vietnam "
MSc. Nguyen Ba Tu, Department of Nature Conservation, Genetic Resources Management and Biosafety, Department of Nature Conservation and Biodiversity, Vietnam Environment Administration, Ministry of Natural Resources and Environment. Biosafety management for genetically modified organisms in Vietnam "
After the presentation of the reporters, TS. Dr. Nguyen Thanh Vinh hosted a workshop to summarize the presentation on management, research and policy in Vietnam on genetically modified organisms and the Convention on Biological Diversity, CPB, additional protocols and proposals. Discussion on the following issues: Issues in research and application of biotechnology to genetically modified organisms; Testing work in the south and implementation of management of the law on genetically modified plant varieties; Management issues of the customs authorities for varieties containing GMO events; Complete the legal framework in the next time.

According to the LNA Division, the NP