Spoke with him on the phone yesterday. I listed the phone number earlier. Call him. He is the VP of sales. Not Investor Relations. But he answers the phone. I have called a few times. Once in a while he does not answer, but most of the time he does. Believe me if you want. Don't if you want. Call for yourself like I did. I called. I am holding on to my shares with an iron fist. No selling for me in 2018