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ssami

08/28/18 9:24 AM

#150211 RE: Unkwn #150210

In case you dont have yield info for so called 7nm at smsg , guess zip, and now you are building 3d casels

Andy Grave

08/28/18 7:46 PM

#150214 RE: Unkwn #150210

Ah, by the way, there were already reports about AMD moving some of the production to Samsung. Not sure if it actually happened or not (was in 2016). I think AMD already uses Samsung as a second/third source.

...what reports?............NO.............GF licensed the Samsung 14NM LPP process after failing at developing their own. This process was used very successfully for all the early Ryzen/Epyc stuff.............basically a vanilla foundry process used largely for smart phones competing against Intel's 14nm with all their years of learning and that famous close collaboration between design and process. GF then added their own improvements to come out with what they call their 12nm process....which gave a modest performance and density benefit without any extensive redesign. AMD continues to use these processes for all CURRENT 14nm/12nm CPU products but will likely debut NO MORE from GF and ALL future products will be 7nm from TSMC........including 7nm Epyc 2 server in April 2019........that's the concept......that's the plan