Replies to post #137878 on Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Inc (KBLB)

[jburby777]

Truth we only need FDA approval to sell to the medical industry. I would say that would be the last industry that KBLB tries to infiltrate with the long approval process. You will see us enter the athletic apparel business while continuing to support contracts for the US military.

[first mike]

a powerful rationale for the opposite.

This is an "historic" quote from a suspect and self-serving source.
The idea of instability in the spider silk genes or the precursor incorporation sequences has been disproven, despite the recent furor over variation in other parts of the silkworm genome.
The anti-GMO argument Has pretty much been laid to rest.
The 5% might still be true for Randy's worms, it was the amount first achieved as listed in the NSF paper but has been bettered for years at KBLB.
And everything Randy lists as an advantage of his bacteria are attempts to cast his problems as advantages.

RL states "There are three different ways of making spider silk protein, Lewis said. One is by using transgenic bacteria, transgenic goat milk or transgenic silkworms.

If that is ONE then what are the other 2 ?????
Also there have been many different transgenic attempts (most by Lewis) yet he mentions only the three he is currently invested in and then denigrates the two of those he is less committed to at the moment, even bringing up the old "The Chinese are thieves" infamy.

This does not mean that I am convinced that the race is won and the ultimate goal achieved.
KBLB still has a ways to go before declaring total victory.
But things are looking much brighter for them, risk is lessening,

Mike L.

[rayovac812]

In Lewis’ estimation, taking the technology overseas seems unlikely at best.

The silkworm-spider combination has a lot of potential, but ultimately has limitations because there is no way to change what the silkworm produces, Lewis said.

But it may be a while before villagers in Cambodia are raising spider silk-emitting worms, if ever. Even if the technology is eventually proven successful, the business models surrounding genetically engineered organisms may preclude small, subsistence-style farmers — who currently produce almost all of the world’s raw silk — from ever accessing the improved silkworm eggs.

Some of the conclusions have been answered and Lewis was wrong, as some of us said at the time. I even think that Fraser is wrong, unless DS gets us closer to that 20-30% goal. This info we are not yet privy to. Interesting question if they are willing to answer it. But he was speaking of Monster Silk, but even then for the right use, even MS could have been used for ballistics protection, but not vests.

Point is that some of those have already been turned upside down, so they aren't as powerful as they were when said....right? We know that things are very different today, so while many of the things Lewis said about gels, glues, coatings etc still apply, he was one of the people that said it can't be done. Excuse me?