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DeerBalls

01/26/18 9:59 AM

#47895 RE: penny2pound #47894

Yes, the answer is simple! As with everything, aapl looks at risk/reward. Those risks are rising and the basic fundamentals have changed.

I still believe, as a possibility, they did believe our patents have worth. They were going to run the PTAB strategy, playing on their own field, and after they won, come in and try to buy on the cheap. Isn't playing out that way and the potential risk is going way up.

We can still use the PTAB win in court, but Oil States winning would be GREAT, for others, too!
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nyt

01/26/18 11:05 AM

#47898 RE: penny2pound #47894

Not so fast.... Not so "simple"....
It's been pounded out for years... "vplm has no income"... "They can't keep going"... "They can't afford the legal fees"... "the big dogs know they can't last long w/no income". And so forth & so on... This same mantra has been repeated so many times ever since they decided the only game is sell. Well, I'm here to tell you that's now obviously bs. There are many many costs associated with running vplm and it ain't chicken feed, it's a ton of costs over the years, for pay, for lawyers, for court costs, for patents, for PRs, and the list goes on & on. Just take a look in the regular reports to see the loooong lists of payees. Some is paid cash, some shares & whatever other special deals are made. But it's a long list, over the years and alot of value or money. And vplm has found a way to pay it all! They have not defaulted on anything and everyone and their brother has gotten paid, one way or the other. Think about the past 2 years fighting apple, AT&T, Verizon, etc. Lots of costs there. But everybody & every agency has be paid, somehow. They seem to have an unlimited source of funding. And at the same time we are told there's minimal dilution. A magic company! Just keeps going & going & going like the energizer bunny... And there's no sign that I'm aware of that's says any of that is any different at this point. I'm also guessing that the more vplm keeps moving successfully past the legal hurdles, such a the ipr sweep, the more value they have in the eyes of the lawyers, in terms of contingency or special payment deals. Why would legal teams walk away when they see vplm winning & know vplm must keep being represented? So I dont see how Apple or any other comoany would be betting on busting vplm money wise. The so called "no income" has done nothing to stop them. They likely have all sorts of income..... Selling shares, private placements, trading shares for services and whatever other instruments are available. They have plenty of income.
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The 2nd reason why there is something very NOT SIMPLE about it (why no one buys) is this: said it many times but no one seems to get it... Why would apple or anyone else fight so hard to NOT BUY vplm when obviously there is a ton of more money in buying than not buying. It is THAT which is simple. I have asked the question over & over.... How much is vplm worth, all told, (that means incl all the income and damages & settlements & licensing, etc) to whoever own it, versus how much would it cost them if they don't buy it, for the same things? Only one person answered it. He said $30 billion but he didnt stipulate if that was the cost to buy or how much they could collect as an owner. I guess I have to more or less answer it myself. It's obvious to me that there is far more income and overall value over time, to own it and collect on it, than to not buy it and then be forced to cough up the damages. In other words, where is the value in refusing to buy it? I already established as best I could that vplm income has not and is not a problem so far and things look increasingly better for vplm, according to many. So Apple and the others aren't winning on thst front. Also, any company could decide to step up at any moment and buy VPLM , so where would that leave Apple or any of the others? It leaves them still being sitting directly waiting for the inevitable hammer to fall on them for infringement.
So 1) the income issue doesn't seem to be an issue (no sales since obtaining patents) and 2) it's waaaay more lucrative for a company to buy VPLM and exploit, than to not. Yup, simple. So I'm thinking you might be saying to yourself, "that's all well & good, but the bigs are STILL counting on busting the bank. My answer? Vplm has been a company for 21 years. All bills paid to date. They have been vplm for about 11 yrs. All bills paid. They have been up for sale for about 5 yrs. All bills are paid. The bottom line is that as long as all the voip companies KNOW that the patents are "all that", they know that vplm will be able to pay the bills... and that if they don't buy it, they will have to pay the piper BIG TIME! Therefore it is very reasonable to assume that maybe, just maybe, the other companies, after having done all their DD and networked, have reached the conclusion that the patents are not all that. That, would connect all the dots. That, would explain why no one seems to give a crap about them. That, would explain why no known offers, no buys, no settlements, no licenses. After all, no one has ever proven the efficacy, need or value of the patents.
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Positive NRG

01/26/18 12:02 PM

#47902 RE: penny2pound #47894

Very well put